Incongruent item stats text format style

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  1. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    why some stats are written this way?

    +20% concentration points
    +34% weapon attack speed
    +59 damage

    while others are like this..

    20% more concentration points
    34% more weapon attack speed
    59 more damage

    ?

    you should use "+" or words like "more" or "increased" but not both
     
  2. Sunlight

    Sunlight User

    Hey there @Arr ,

    Thank you for your suggestion.

    Sometimes there are different translators doing the same things, which can be the case. One wrote from one form and other translator used another construction.

    Can you share with us some more information about that? Which items are written in different ways (or it has do to with item level...)?

    So, we are suggesting this fix ;)
     
  3. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    finally someone replies (y)

    let me grab some screenshots,
    i will add miswriting of numbers and symbols like 5 % instead of 5% or 1,0 instead of 1

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    this one should be

    +69.14% Weapon damage
    +69.99% Critical damage
    +91 Damage

    lines must start with capital or lower case but not mixed like on this pìcture,
    and should not have that space after + symbol

    on last 2 lines should be a space after colon


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    here on bonus description you can see the space before % symbol and missing end point on first two lines. On first line, "Points" should be lower case.


    * you should use point symbol for decimal separation (english)
    * 50,00 on lightblue lines (last zero after comma not needed)
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2016
  4. Sunlight

    Sunlight User

    Hey there @Arr ,

    I am sorry for the late answer :(

    About your suggestion/report, we are reporting this in our Weekly Report, so be sure that we are following this situation. As you may understand, this is not a high-priority request, but I think that's a case for our Localization Team. Normally they care about this too.

    Thank you a lot for your cooperation and, once again, sorry for the late answer :D
     
  5. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Count Count

  6. Sunlight

    Sunlight User

    Hey there @Dragonnns ,

    Absolutely! This has to do with Localization/Translation Team ;)

    We are following this to that team. Please, be pacient.


    Cheers,
     
  7. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    First ... let me state ... YOU are all wrong :D :D :D
    Everything is perfectly fine with those descriptions.

    1.
    No.
    It says 69.14% increased weapon damage

    2. Numbers count as capital letters when starting sentences.
    3. In English language there is one rule ... "avoid starting sentences with numbers" ... BUT ... we are dealing with short technical description here not some poetry.
    4.
    The space is there so you can have better insight ... however ... those numbers are not just typed manually ... those are variables. In programming there are certain rules.
    All lines are starting with capital letter ... numbers count as capital letters ... however ... you are confused because some of those words indicate "A Name" ... therefore capital letter is being used. Some properties have names ... like Damage i.e.

    5.
    No.
    Zeros after the coma are needed because they are giving description ... and it has been made that way so the players can have better insight on the real number. Rounding values at different decimal point has impact as well ... sometimes rounding occur in tenths sometimes it is in hundredths or thousandth place ... so this is why this format is being used.

    6.
    Comma is international standard to mark decimal units position by ISO.


    In short ... I may have omitted something to explain but everything is as it should be.
    BTW ... all these were disused in the past but in separate threads.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2016
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  8. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    no
     
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I say yes. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Reinier

    Reinier Someday Author

    I totally agree with Trakilaki on this one...maybe the only thing would be to "group" the lines starting with + and leave the others togheter. Position should only be a matter of displaying all the details
     
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  11. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    "Everything is perfectly fine with those descriptions"
    "Numbers count as capital letters when starting sentences"

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  12. Wllf

    Wllf Advanced

    Those boxes are making my eyes hurt... It's like a 5 year old with stickers. :rolleyes:
     
  13. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Looks like you don't read ... read it again XD
     
  14. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    for me the only wrong things are the blue & white boxes
     
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  15. bennfros

    bennfros Someday Author

    Only thing looks weird that we have 2 types of damage :)
    1st - Damage
    2nd - damage
     
  16. ipodsie1

    ipodsie1 Forum Apprentice

    So...now we are having issues with common usage(area based). As was noted all the descriptions except possibly the spacing after the colon/semi-colon and highlighted by the colourful boxes is accepted/acceptable and as noted actually the "gramitically correct" way to write the description accepting that it is written unwieldy and as such is still acceptable as it is a "tech note" NOT a fully written sentence but they do still follow the actual written English RULES. That you are now a part of society or region that does not follow the standards for the written word in English this becomes a common usage( NOT a English language ) issue. Because what you understand to be common usage does not make it proper English, example: ain't is used by damn near every individual and is still not proper English. how the descriptions are noted in a tech note format IS correctly written, but perhaps just not pretty to your eyes as it is in a format you do not regularly see. Please understand i am not trying to belittle or say anyone is wrong but making an observation. Common usage format is not and hopefully never will be accepted as proper written language form. :)

    For more grammer related understanding excepting common usage over actual written language skills check " The Grammer Lady" or similar. She usually is able to more adequitely express herself than this lowly engineer.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2016
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    The first one is name
    The second one is not.
     
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  18. GodChronos

    GodChronos Forum Expert

    As a coder myself the words are most likely not a variable. For example they could do DmgVariable + "% Weapon Damage". Off course if that is the case than the translation problem is inside the code itself.
     
    Last edited by moderator: Aug 17, 2016
  19. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    What words man ... the numbers are.
     
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  20. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    or liek somebody trying to explain something to a 5 years old (go see your eye doctor)
     
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